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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim.Wright View Post
    BUT...

    I am a bit suspicious of using the skew parallelogram to calculate the control arm force. Yes it's a valid way of representing the resultant contact patch force, but you get a control arm force smaller than it should be. I have taken your same problem and decomposed the LH wheel force into n-t coords which is a recangular parallogram. I get a control arm force of 3.434kN (as opposed to your 3.015kN).

    To represent it graphically, below on the right is how you have decomposed the contact patch force into n-z (normal,vertical) coords. On the left is how I did it using n-t (normal,tangent) coords.


    The reason that your control arm force is smaller is because your Z (vertical) component contains a component acting along the n-axis. I think this is significant because in this example alone there is a 13% difference.
    Tim,

    Yes, you are 100% correct.

    And, indeed, that is the way I had it on the original version of Figure 13 (shown below).



    On the updated Figure 13 (several posts ago) I removed the body-reference-frame forces because I figured it was all getting a bit cluttered. Also, when looking just at the ground-frame force components, it is easy to see that the left wheelprint vertical force Fl.v = 4.5 kN (at top-left of sketch) equals the spring force Fgl.s = 4.2 kN, plus the control-arm vertical (jacking) component Fgl.ca x 1/10 = 0.3 kN (at bottom-left of sketch).

    For control-arm stress calculations, decomposition of the forces in the body-frame is better. But, of course, any angularity of the real spring-damper (or its push/pull-rod) away from vertically above the wheelprint must also be factored into the calculations. As you have noted, a spring-damper that angles down-and-outward toward the wheelprint is beneficial in that it helps the control-arms by resisting some of the up-and-inward road-to-tyre loads.
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    As a further little twist, students might again consider the spring and control-arm forces in the body-frame (perhaps clearer in Tim's sketch, at left). The control-arm (or n-line) forces in this frame are horizontal wrt car-body-frame. Yet we should still expect the calculations for "jacking" effect to be the same as before, namely a Heave motion of about 12 mm. But horizontal n-lines CANNOT cause any jacking... So WT!!!???

    The resolution to this problem comes from looking at the "body" forces Fg and Fi acting through the CG of the car. In particular, in the body-reference frame, Fg has a small leftward component, and Fi has a small UPWARD (!) component of ~0.4 kN, which, in effect, lifts the car ~12 mm

    Z
    Last edited by Z; 12-08-2013 at 06:38 PM.

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