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Frank
12-20-2004, 08:12 PM
i have noticed a lot of people are interested in compliance, i am too

i have question

in the case of camber compliance..

how do you analyse a design? I assume the compliance from the bearing compliment will be an order of magnitude greater than the rest of the mechanism?

do you physically measure the bearing compliance before designing?

regards

Frank

Frank
12-20-2004, 08:12 PM
i have noticed a lot of people are interested in compliance, i am too

i have question

in the case of camber compliance..

how do you analyse a design? I assume the compliance from the bearing compliment will be an order of magnitude greater than the rest of the mechanism?

do you physically measure the bearing compliance before designing?

regards

Frank

Denny Trimble
12-20-2004, 11:13 PM
Frank,
We've measured rodend stiffness on an instron, but we haven't measured wheel bearing assemblies yet. We did the physical test of the entire system last year, so we should be able to infer that "unknown" from the system stiffness, with all the other stiffnesses known or calculated from FEA.

Mike T, have you estimated wheel bearing stiffness yet? You don't have much else to do right now, do you? http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

PatClarke
12-21-2004, 02:31 AM
Frank, this pic might be of interest to youhttp://www.f1total.com/bilder/2004/tests/04jerez5/z140.jpg
Pat

Frank
12-21-2004, 09:22 PM
and it is?

Charlie
12-21-2004, 10:17 PM
I'm guessing those sensors measure proximity to the center node, which would show wheel compliance?

Denny Trimble
12-22-2004, 12:21 AM
It looks more like a load cell wheel to me, for measuring forces on the wheel during driving. But I'm not sure...

powered by wattard
12-22-2004, 03:06 AM
Where not so high tech here at Melb Uni. In 2003, when we suspected our rim centres were flexing like crazy, out came the chewing gum which was carefully placed on the brake caliper, 10mm from the centre.

When the chewing gum disappeared after 1 corner, we knew we were in deep &*^%. I now carry a fresh packet in the toolbox evry time the car goes out.

Will Attard
MUR 2000-2004

PatClarke
12-22-2004, 03:38 AM
Frank, it looks like an extraordinarily expensive way to increase unsprung weight to me http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
But basically Charlie and Denny have it about right, or as close as I can figure.
Pat

Alan
12-22-2004, 07:28 AM
I agree with Denny. Kistler and MTS both make wheel force transducers that look a lot like the picture.