cornering in the engine oil??

[karasu]

Does anyone has good ideas about oil heels to one side under hard conering in the engine oil ??

How do you guys solve this problem??


Jae-Hyun Jeong
Yeungnam University at South Korea
YUSAE Racing Team

[karasu]

Does anyone has good ideas about oil heels to one side under hard conering in the engine oil ??

How do you guys solve this problem??


Jae-Hyun Jeong
Yeungnam University at South Korea
YUSAE Racing Team

[mtg]

There are several ways to make the engine stay alive while cornering. Here's a few:

Wet sump engine:
- Huge oil pan (fast and easy)
- Accusump (a bit heavy, but works well)
- Baffles in the oil pan to slow down the oil flowing to one side (can get elaborate)

Or,

- Dry sump engine with oil pickups at the corners of the oil pan/plate (robust oil delivery)

[Ben Beacock]

As always, the "Find" button works amazingly well.

Search results:
oil pan (http://fsae.com/eve/forums?a=search&reqWords=oil+pan&use_forum_scope=on&forum_scope=125607348)
oil starvation (http://fsae.com/eve/forums?a=search&reqWords=oil+starvation&use_forum_scope=on&forum_scope=125607348)

[Ian M]

The way I modeled this was to calculate what angle the max amount of g's equaled. Then find a way to keep your oil volume constant and see whether or not the oil is going to pull away from the pickup under a certain amount of g's. It's worth looking into.

[Parker]

What are you guys' experiences with swinging pickups?

[karasu]

Thank You for reply.



Jae-Hyun, Jeong
Yeungnam University at Korea
YUSAE Team

[absolutepressure]

Take a look at some manufacturer's gas tanks for some ideas. I know in my car there is a nautilus (spiral) shape with the fuel pump in the center of the nautilus. I think that's the type of shape I want to implement into our sump...if we need to. I didn't really take it off to look at it yet.

Question: We have an 02 R6 engine, and I noticed that there's a wire leading into the bottom of the sump connected to what looks like either a sensor, or a motor. Does it have an electric oil pump? It isn't at the lowest spot in the sump by any means, so I don't know what it is. Oil level warning for the bikes?

[Ehsan]

Unless you have some magical R6, none of the japanese sport bikes have electric oil pumps.

If you need to know what the wire/sensor is, try heading over to http://www.ronayers.com and check out their online microfiches for the OEM parts. Should tell you whatever you need to know. You should also get yourself a repair manual for the bike if you don't have one yet. That would also give you the info.

[drivetrainUW-Platt]

Denny, its probably the low oil sensor for the oil level......

Ehsan,
I thought all "overnight parts from Japan" were magical, thats what the Fast and the Furious taught me at least.

[AnthoniX]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by absolutepressure:
Take a look at some manufacturer's gas tanks for some ideas. I know in my car there is a nautilus (spiral) shape with the fuel pump in the center of the nautilus. I think that's the type of shape I want to implement into our sump...if we need to. I didn't really take it off to look at it yet.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I also found that(the spriral shape) in some teams's pictures and I was wondering the function of it.Can it hold up the oil from heeling to one side or possibly slow down the process?

[AnthoniX]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Parker:
What are you guys' experiences with swinging pickups? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you mean swinging pickups in the dry sump oil systems?Sounds like a good idea but how do implement that because the sump is already very thin?