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Yes I do (camber is not taken into account in this simplified reasoning neither the influence that higher slip angle and the Fx increased "rolling resistance" on the inside wheel will have on the yaw moment. Our balance vs grip method which take the tire Fx and Mz into account shows the same trends.Are you suggesting that if the more heavily loaded outer tyre reaches peak lateral force (peak Fy) at, say, 1 degree greater slip-angle than the inner tyre, then the steering should be anti-Ackermann (ie. the wheels should toe-in when steered away from straight ahead)???
That is what I believe in and that is what i have experienced on race tracks. For example when I race engineered F3 on Michelin tires (in 2 years we won more than 50 % of the races we competed in and both championships) where the tire models and data clearly showed that the more you loaded the tire the more slip angle you needed to get the most Fy, we always got quicker with anti-Ackerman geometry. In fact the front became "too good" (driver comment) and we had the work on the rear to use this additional front grip and get back to the same balance; same yaw moment, more grip. That was even more true on tight circuits like Pau or Monaco. Quantitatively, the amount of need anti-ackerman needed was a function of the track grip and a bit the driver style. I went racing with the same car in Germany where the mandatory tire was a different one and where the more you loaded the tire the less slip angle we needed; there a pro Ackerman worked better.
Maybe I was right but for the wrong reason(s) and I am always ready to listen but so far that is what my reasoning and experience is. A few successful Le Mans and F1 engineers I discussed this with also thinks this way, although if all of them agreed on the principle some of them also say that "it is not that simple..they are other factors starting with tire temperature and tire temperature distribution. These guys have extremely sophisticated tire thermal models. I agree and that is why using tire IR temperature sensors while testing different Ackerman will teach you a lot. But these engineers and I could all be wrong. What is your take?
Claude
Claude