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  1. #31
    Congratulations to all winners on FSG, especially Delft which did it for fourth time in a row! Overall this was a great competition to follow, and despite being unable to attend, twitter, live streaming and live timing made a bit up!

    On a side note, I was taking a look at the results earlier and got confused. How comes that we (UniPatras) did an accel. run of 4.216 w/o having DQ and still got zero points? I noticed it with a few other teams too (Diepholz, Siegen, TU Darmstadt). Wouldn't change much, but we would be 10th with about 38,5 points on accel., which would put us 4 places higher in the final results (25th instead of 29th). Again, this wouldn't change much, but I cannot really get the zero points thing...

  2. #32
    Harry,

    All he teams you mention got a DSQ on one of the runs. DSQ on one means DSQ on all. You team got one on the second run. Probably > 85KW power used.
    Tristan
    Delft '09 Team member, '10 - Chief Electronics
    'now' (Hardware) Security Engineer

  3. #33
    Oh, silly me, somehow I missed that if you get DQ on one run, you DQ for the whole event. IMO it just not makes much sense, but rules are rules! Thanks and apologies for me being stupid! :-)

  4. #34
    The idea behind it is probably that they can only check it after the whole event (e.g. acceleration). If you drove with >85KW in one, you might be able to do it at all runs. Whether you did it in all runs is irrelevant; You had the opportunity to do so and did at least once.
    Tristan
    Delft '09 Team member, '10 - Chief Electronics
    'now' (Hardware) Security Engineer

  5. #35
    No rusty car this time?

    Can anyone brief me about their take on Alexandria University team efforts?
    Conveyor Systems Design Engineer - EgyRoll
    AUMotorsports Team Leader 09-10
    Alexandria University, Egypt.

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    Tobias,

    Are the PDFs at the bottom of these FSC Results final?

    In particular, Chinese team Shiyan has 70 points in the Design.pdf, but in the Total.pdf they appear with 0 points for Design.

    I note that one out of the two Chinese teams entered (ie. Shiyan) managed to score reasonable points in all events, including finishing Endurance. The other team, Weihai, DNF'd in Enduro, but did OK in the other events.

    By comparison, all Indian teams failed Enduro (no surprise!), and only 4 of 9 British teams managed to finish Enduro. Sure, sample size is too small for statistical significance, but I reckon the Chinese are coming!!!

    Z

  7. #37
    From a personal point of view I'm interested in the efficiency scores for FSE but those aren't online yet.
    Tristan
    Delft '09 Team member, '10 - Chief Electronics
    'now' (Hardware) Security Engineer

  8. #38
    Originally posted by BeunMan:
    The idea behind it is probably that they can only check it after the whole event (e.g. acceleration). If you drove with >85KW in one, you might be able to do it at all runs. Whether you did it in all runs is irrelevant; You had the opportunity to do so and did at least once.
    The intention behind this rule is that, if we would only disqualify the run with the violation that teams will start to gamble by trying 83, 84, 85 and 86kW and let us puck the rules compliant run. This is not our job. Technically we could easily do this right now.
    Regards,

    Tobias

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  9. #39
    Originally posted by RollingCamel:
    No rusty car this time?

    Can anyone brief me about their take on Alexandria University team efforts?
    Their car was damaged heavily during transport. I do not know the background though.
    Regards,

    Tobias

    Formula Student Germany
    FSE Rules & Organisation
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  10. #40
    Originally posted by Z:
    Tobias,

    Are the PDFs at the bottom of these FSC Results final?

    In particular, Chinese team Shiyan has 70 points in thie Design.pdf, but in the Total.pdf they appear with 0 points for Design.

    I note that one out of the two Chinese teams entered (ie. Shiyan) managed to score reasonable points in all events, including finishing Endurance. The other team, Weihai, DNF'd in Enduro, but did OK in the other events.

    By comparison, all Indian teams failed Enduro (no surprise!), and only 4 of 9 British teams managed to finish Enduro. Sure, sample size is too small for statistical significance, but I reckon the Chinese are coming!!!

    Z
    The overall results are final and correct in my opinion. Shiyan got penalised in design for being 12kg overweight after Endurance according to FSC rule 7.2
    The FSC design results were finalised before, so they do not reflect this penalty. I will make sure that this is changed.
    Regards,

    Tobias

    Formula Student Germany
    FSE Rules & Organisation
    http://twitter.com/TobiasMic
    http://TobiasMic.Blogspot.com

    Not many people know the difference between resolution and accuracy.

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