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    FSAE Tire Test Consortium -- Round 8

    This post is to announce Round 8 testing:

    + Testing at Calspan TIRF is scheduled for Monday July 30th - Wednesday August 1st.

    + After gauging student interest, reviewing the tires currently used at Formula SAE/Student events and talking with the tire manufacturers (including some not represented below), the following tire constructions have been chosen:

    Hoosier 43070, 16.0 x 6.0 - 10, R25B (free-rolling only, no drive/brake data)
    Hoosier 43070, 16.0 x 6.0 - 10, LCO (free-rolling only, no drive/brake data)
    Hoosier 43075, 16.0 x 7.5 - 10, R25B (free-rolling only, no drive/brake data)
    Hoosier 43075, 16.0 x 7.5 - 10, LCO (free-rolling only, no drive/brake data)
    Continental 43329, 205/470R-13 (free-rolling & drive/brake)
    Goodyear 2704, 20.0X7.0 13 (free-rolling & drive/brake)

    + The test plan will be nearly identical to Rounds 6 & 7.

    + TTC members are welcome to attend the tests in person. If you are interested, please contact Dr. Kasprzak. Calspan is located in Buffalo, New York, USA.

    + Data will be posted to fsaettc.org as soon as possible after the tests.

    We will provide updates on the private forum as they become available.

    As always, thanks to all that make the TTC possible.

    I've started a new Round 8 topic, but also posting here in the "sticky" thread.

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    FSAE Tire Test Consortium - membership update

    The FSAE Tire Test Consortium now has 550 members worldwide. Nice of FSAE.com to keep this big TTC thread sticky. A few thoughts repeated from earlier milestones:

    + Thanks to all the TTC contributors -- Calspan TIRF (show those logos!), tire companies, other industry supporters and volunteers...and of course all the member schools. The TTC has been far more successful than the founders ever imagined.

    + Not sure if your university is a member? Search the membership list (spreadsheet) at,
    http://www.millikenresearch.com/fsaettcaccount.xls

    + If your school is a member, you can register for the secure forum. Please use your university domain personal email when registering at http://www.fsaettc.org (gmail, hotmail, etc or "team domain" email will not work). It might take a few days to be approved. We are all volunteers, please be patient.

    + Need a reminder of the TTC license terms? Check the section named, "USE OF THE DATA FSAE TTC LICENSE AGREEMENT" on the public page, http://www.millikenresearch.com/fsaettc.html
    To maintain our student discount at Calspan, it is important that there is no commercial use of the tire data or posting on the open internet. The TTC secure forum is the place to discuss the tire data in detail.

    + On the same public page, there is a list of all the tires that have been tested.

    -- Doug Milliken for the TTC

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    10 years of the TTC secure forum

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian S View Post
    The TTC forums are now up. When you register you need to use a university email address, this is used to verify TTC membership. Im assuming that a lot of people will be registering in the coming week, so it may take me a while to approve your registration request.

    The forum can be accessed at: http://sae.wsu.edu/ttc
    A bit of history -- Brian's post above was from just over ten years ago, back on page 16 of this long thread -- 01-21-2009 01:45 PM. This started a long run of Washington State U successfully hosting the TTC. When WSU eventually retired their server, Brian handled the migration to our current home at http://www.fsaettc.org

    In the course of searching for that old post, I scanned through many of the early posts in this thread. There is a lot of interesting information here, helpful for anyone getting started using laboratory tire data. A number of the people posting back then have gone on to successful careers in the motorsports industry.

    That look back in history also reminded me that before the forum, TTC data was distributed by mail/post on DVD-R. As the membership grew, this started to become a real nuisance and we learned about the unreliability of postal mail to certain parts of the world...

    As always, thanks to everyone that helps make TTC possible.

    -- Doug Milliken

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    FSAE Tire Test Consortium - membership update

    The FSAE Tire Test Consortium now has 600 members worldwide. While this FSAE.com site is short on contributors these days, it is still full of useful information--thanks to the site operators for keeping it open. A few thoughts repeated from earlier milestones:

    + Thanks to all the TTC contributors -- Calspan TIRF - download Calspan logos for your car direct from the source,
    https://www.calspan.com/company/media-relations/, tire companies, other industry supporters and volunteers...and of course all the member schools. The TTC has been far more successful than the founders ever imagined.

    + Not sure if your university is a member? Search the membership list (spreadsheet) at,
    http://www.millikenresearch.com/fsaettcaccount.xls

    + If your school is a member, you can register for the secure forum. Please use your university-domain personal email when registering at http://www.fsaettc.org (gmail, hotmail, etc or "team domain" email will not work). It might take a few days to be approved. We are all volunteers, please be patient.

    + Need a reminder of the TTC license terms? Check the section named, "USE OF THE DATA FSAE TTC LICENSE AGREEMENT" on the public page, http://www.millikenresearch.com/fsaettc.html
    To maintain our student discount at Calspan, it is important that there is no commercial use of the tire data or posting on the open internet. The TTC secure forum is the place to discuss the tire data in detail.

    + On the same public page, there is a list of all the tires that have been tested.

    -- Doug Milliken for the TTC

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    FSAE Tire Test Consortium -- Round 9

    This post is to announce Round 9 testing:

    Round 9 at Calspan is scheduled for the week of January 17-22, 2022. We plan on testing the following tires, subject to availability (shipping, supply chain, etc.):

    Goodyear 18 X 6.5 10
    Goodyear 20.0 X 7.0 13 (Retest from Round 8)
    Hoosier 16 x 6.0 10 R20
    Hoosier 16 x 7.5 10 R20
    Hoosier 18 x 6.0 10 R20
    Hoosier 18 x 7.5 10 R20
    Hoosier 20.5 x 7.0 13 R20
    MRF 18 x 6.0 10 ZTD1

    Some of these tires have already arrived at Calspan. All tires will be tested on two rim widths (yet to be finalized). We will use the test plan from previous rounds for ease of analysis and comparisons with older data. If time permits, we may perform a few one-off runs based on ideas posted in the TTC forums.

    Unlike previous rounds, students are not permitted to attend the tests at Calspan due to the ongoing pandemic.

    All data will be posted on fsaettc.org a few weeks after testing concludes. We will send an e-mail indicating when it is available.

    As always, thanks to all that make the TTC possible.

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    Round 9 Data Posted

    An email went out earlier today to everyone registered on the TTC secure site: We have posted the Round 9 FSAE TTC data on www.fsaettc.org under "Tire Testing / TTC Round 9". Please let us know if you have any comments or questions.

    These tires were supplied by the tire sponsors and tested:

    Goodyear D0571 18 X 6.5 10
    Goodyear D2704 20.0 X 7.0 13 (Retest from Round 8)
    Hoosier 43070 16 x 6.0 10 R20
    Hoosier 43075 16 x 7.5 10 R20
    Hoosier 43100 18 x 6.0 10 R20
    Hoosier 43164 20.5 x 7.0 13 R20
    MRF 18 x 6.0 10 ZTD1

    Not sure if your school already joined the TTC in past years? Search (Ctrl-f) the spreadsheet found here:
    https://www.millikenresearch.com/fsaettcaccount.xls

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    FSAE Tire Test Consortium - membership update

    The FSAE Tire Test Consortium now has 650 members worldwide. While this FSAE.com site is short on contributors these days, it is still full of useful information--thanks to the site operators for keeping it open. A few thoughts repeated from earlier milestones:

    + Thanks to all the TTC contributors -- Calspan TIRF - download Calspan logos for your car direct from the source, https://www.calspan.com/company/media-relations/ , tire companies, other industry supporters and volunteers...and of course all the member schools. The TTC has been far more successful than the founders ever imagined.

    + Not sure if your university is a member? Search the membership list (spreadsheet) at, http://www.millikenresearch.com/fsaettcaccount.xls

    + If your school is a member, you can register for the secure forum. Please use your university-domain personal email when registering at http://www.fsaettc.org (gmail, hotmail, etc or "team domain" email will not work). It might take a few days to be approved. We are all volunteers, please be patient.

    + Need a reminder of the TTC license terms? Check the section named, "USE OF THE DATA FSAE TTC LICENSE AGREEMENT" on the public page, http://www.millikenresearch.com/fsaettc.html To maintain our student discount at Calspan, it is important that there is no commercial use of the tire data or posting on the open internet. The TTC secure forum is the place to discuss the tire data in detail.

    + On the same public page, there is a list of all the tires that have been tested.

    -- Doug Milliken for the TTC

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