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Thread: Welcome back FSAE.com! ... But why the lack of discussion?

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    Welcome back FSAE.com! ... But why the lack of discussion?

    Glad the forum is back up! When it went missing I was worried that a lot of good car design discussion had been swept into the internet's wastebin without warning (kind of like when my wife goes on a house re-organizing binge :-)

    I wonder why conversation has dried up on this site? That "other" site where FSAE participants congregate has devolved into a meme and rant cesspool. Certainly there have to be a large number of us enthusiasts with unanswered questions and interesting new ideas to explore. I don't buy the idea that everything FSAE-related has already been discussed in the archives. There are always new rules, software, COTS parts, materials and design approaches to explore.
    Last edited by Composites Guy; 08-25-2019 at 09:04 AM.

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    I always read/post here from a laptop. How well does this site display on different kinds of phones?

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    agree, this forum has always been a source of great discussions and information. Would be a pity to somehow loose it.

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    That "other" site where FSAE participants congregate has devolved into a meme and rant cesspool
    That's a pretty accurate description of what that site has turned into. Every once in a while a good thread will grow, but more often than not it's memes.

    I believe it to be from the format of forums encouraged users to type out their complete thought as opposed to the "chat like" nature of the newer forum bases (ie Reddit).

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    There are reasons

    Hi,

    There was a time when FSAE and this forum were some of the most important parts of my life. Naturally that lessened after college but I continue to support my old team with donations are rounding up sponsorship and I stayed active here till spring 2018. Even 2 years ago the declining level of participation was clear. There were a number of heated conversations at the time about what was driving people to other platforms; and they regrettably devolved into ad hominem attacks by and toward senior forum members.

    I admitted fanned the flames with two surveys; though I stand by their results.

    1) There is a disconnect between the goals of the competition (to have a rigorous engineering competition) and the goals of most students (build a cool car, have fun, and improve their engineering skills).

    2) Most students left because the forums became a toxic place with senior members shaming new joiners, there are better platforms out there, and the info they need is already here.

    All of this is just my opinion and I donít want to re-open old wounds or pick a fight; just want to provide context for people that stumble across this. Sometime I think the best thing that could happen would be for the best material here to be compiled and then to start over.

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    Survey #1 Why did you participate in FSAE? What was your personal goal?

    Students top 2 goals: 58% Build a cool car and have fun, 56% Improve your engineering skill set, 27% Win the competition, 26% Get a job in motorsports

    Things people like most about FSAE: Friends and designing the car
    Things people like least about FSAE: The organization, static events, university specific issues, and poor team dynamics

    Summary 1.1
    http://www.fsae.com/forums/showthrea...387#post127387
    Summary 1.2
    http://www.fsae.com/forums/showthrea...990#post127990

    Survey #2 Why did you stop posting here?

    59% "because this place is toxic with posters being called out and shamed by people like Claude and Z too regularly"
    36% There are better platform options
    25% The info I want from here has already been discussed. Just read old threads and no need to post
    13% Low activity level so I don't post (catch 22)
    8% Excess of "Give me the answer plz thx" posts
    4% I graduated
    3% I post regularly at www.fsae.com/forums/
    2% Not aware of it

    Summary 2.1
    http://www.fsae.com/forums/showthrea...996#post127996

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    Thanks Will. I have the feeling that younger students nowadays are much more familiar with the format of Facebook/social media, and are not so much into forums. Although tracking back info through social media can be a huge pain, so you see the same questions being asked over and over and over again...

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