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Thread: Interest in Aurora HAB-3T spherical bearings

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    Hello,

    I've been working with Aurora Bearing about the possibility of a making a smaller bore, high-misalignment spherical bearings. Currently the HAB sphericals only go down to a .250" bore. We would be looking at having a .1875" bore made, essentially what would be the HAB-3T/HAB-3TG in their catalog here.

    Aurora is reviewing their pricing currently. I know I've talked with a few people around the paddock, but I'm curious if any other teams might be interested too. Having a few more buyers might make the production run more worth Aurora's time.

    Eric Hutchinson
    UW-Madison Formula SAE

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    Hello,

    I've been working with Aurora Bearing about the possibility of a making a smaller bore, high-misalignment spherical bearings. Currently the HAB sphericals only go down to a .250" bore. We would be looking at having a .1875" bore made, essentially what would be the HAB-3T/HAB-3TG in their catalog here.

    Aurora is reviewing their pricing currently. I know I've talked with a few people around the paddock, but I'm curious if any other teams might be interested too. Having a few more buyers might make the production run more worth Aurora's time.

    Eric Hutchinson
    UW-Madison Formula SAE
    Eric Hutchinson

  3. #3
    Sounds like a fun endeavor, but why...? Is it the strength increase?

    You can pretty much create a high misalignment bearing out of a non-high misalignment by creating stand-offs similar to figure 3 on page 4 of their catalog. Our team did this--though I recommend using a higher strength steel for the stand-offs so they don't crush via clamping forces.

    So do you guys currently take a COM-3T or otherwise and convert it over, or do you make do with the HAB-4T's?


    Ben

  4. #4
    Have a chat to the Auckland team, they may have just got some done.

    We changed to the HAB-4Ts in 2009. They were a bit big and overkill, but saved us making 100 million spacers, and suspension assembly and servicing became dreamily easy rather than an abosolute c*** fiddling with spacers (or stacked washers when one went missing).
    "He who dies with the most toys wins"

  5. #5
    Ben - We're currently using the COM-3T. Looking for a different solution because dealing with spacers everywhere on the car gets to be a real pain.
    Eric Hutchinson

  6. #6
    So would that mean a 3/16" shank as well?

    How much weight do you think you will ultimately save? I'm assuming a substantial amount if you're going through the trouble of having these made?
    -Richard Mazur
    ASU

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by woodsy96:
    Have a chat to the Auckland team, they may have just got some done.

    We changed to the HAB-4Ts in 2009. They were a bit big and overkill, but saved us making 100 million spacers, and suspension assembly and servicing became dreamily easy rather than an abosolute c*** fiddling with spacers (or stacked washers when one went missing). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    You made me laugh out loud at work. Thanks for that. I now remember how much I absolutely hated spacers in our suspension spherical bearings.

    Ben

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    Spacers are so annoying!!! I had to get someone else to do it for me the other day, I'd been up most of the night and my hands were shaking just a little to much to do it myself. I've never designed the suspension systems myself, or researched bearings, but I always wondered if there was a better way. I'll be taking a much closer look at suspension design next year so this interests me a lot.
    Dunk
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    Brunel Racing
    2010-11 - Drivetrain Development Engineer
    2011-12 - Consultant and Long Distance Dogsbody
    2012-13 - Chassis, Bodywork & Aerodynamics manager

    2014-present - Engineer at Jaguar Land Rover

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I'll be taking a much closer look at suspension design next year so this interests me a lot. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Dunk,
    Be careful. The rabbit hole goes a long way down...
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    Nick Renold
    Northwestern Formula Racing - Suspension Lead '11

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dunk Mckay:
    but I always wondered if there was a better way. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    We welded in steel spacers where possible. Made suspension assembly a breeze, though we still had quite a bit of loose spacers. I'm going to try and eliminate as many loose spacers as possible this year. Shit sucks.
    -Richard Mazur
    ASU

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