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    SES Sample

    Hi Every Body

    we are new team and want to fill SES:

    Would any body give me filled Structural Equivalency Spreadsheet sample which used Steel spaceframe?

    I want to fill mine but have doubt in filling some items and how to do it!

    Best Wishes
    FUM Racing Team
    Ferdowsi University of Mashhad -Iran
    www.caspianFSAE.ir

  2. #2
    Hello Farzaneh,

    I would recommend you buy "Learn & Compete A primer for Formula SAE, Formula Student and Formula Hybrid teams (Learn & Compete, Volume 1)". There is a great section explaining the frame and the SES. They have examples chassis pictures and additional explanation on each tab.

    Also, if you follow the baseline rules, your complete SES submission is not that different from the template on fsaeonline.com. The only thing that changed is the chassis pics and welded insert calculations.


    http://www.amazon.com/Compete-primer.../dp/0953352471
    Daniel
    Formula SAE
    Montreal Polytechnique 2009-present
    Cost guy 2011-present
    Rules guy 2012-present
    Secretary 2013-present
    Assistant Director 2014-2015

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanielH View Post
    Hello Farzaneh,

    I would recommend you buy "Learn & Compete A primer for Formula SAE, Formula Student and Formula Hybrid teams (Learn & Compete, Volume 1)". There is a great section explaining the frame and the SES. They have examples chassis pictures and additional explanation on each tab.

    Also, if you follow the baseline rules, your complete SES submission is not that different from the template on fsaeonline.com. The only thing that changed is the chassis pics and welded insert calculations.


    http://www.amazon.com/Compete-primer.../dp/0953352471
    Thanks Daniel
    Does this product explain about the analysis should be present for Alternative Frame Rules (SCRF)?
    FUM Racing Team
    Ferdowsi University of Mashhad -Iran
    www.caspianFSAE.ir

  4. #4
    Yes, they go over why you shouldn't use the AFR unless you are an experienced team with a lot of resources.
    Daniel
    Formula SAE
    Montreal Polytechnique 2009-present
    Cost guy 2011-present
    Rules guy 2012-present
    Secretary 2013-present
    Assistant Director 2014-2015

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by DanielH View Post
    Yes, they go over why you shouldn't use the AFR unless you are an experienced team with a lot of resources.
    Daniel
    I designed my Space frame chassis with baseline material and wall thickness and OD,I wanted to check it with AF conditions and forces.
    I simulate it and it failed the problem is by my design or rules?!!
    FUM Racing Team
    Ferdowsi University of Mashhad -Iran
    www.caspianFSAE.ir

  6. #6
    I have question about filling SES :
    If we use baseline material should we fill "Your Tube" the OD & wall thickness which was determined in rules and if we use tube which has more OD & thickness it's not against the law?
    FUM Racing Team
    Ferdowsi University of Mashhad -Iran
    www.caspianFSAE.ir

  7. #7
    T3.4 Minimum Material Requirements

    "Note 1: The use of alloy steel does not allow the wall thickness to be thinner than
    that used for mild steel.
    Note 2: For a specific application:
    - Using tubing of the specified outside diameter but with greater wall thickness,
    - Or of the specified wall thickness and a greater outside diameter,
    - Or replacing round tubing with square tubing of the same or larger size to those listed above,
    Are NOT rules deviation requiring approval."

    It is not against the law unless you steel your tubing.
    Daniel
    Formula SAE
    Montreal Polytechnique 2009-present
    Cost guy 2011-present
    Rules guy 2012-present
    Secretary 2013-present
    Assistant Director 2014-2015

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    We steal our steel tubing which is not right either, but it's not against FSAE rules.
    University of Tasmania (UTAS)

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