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    Anyone looked into using one of these?


    (note: I espeially like how the turbo note points to the CV boot. "same technology as a jet" & "exclusively electronically" LOL...)

    Darren

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    Anyone looked into using one of these?


    (note: I espeially like how the turbo note points to the CV boot. "same technology as a jet" & "exclusively electronically" LOL...)

    Darren

    DRT - Deakin

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    Last i heard, our snowmobile team was looking to change to a smart car engine this year. New engines are in the $8000-$10000 range. I saw a couple vehicles on a salvage auction site. Should be cheap to pick up a wrecked one since all they're good for is scrap after a wreck.

    Should be an easy engine to package. I'm sure some team will try it out when they become more available.

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    why?

    they're worse than a motorcycle engine in just about every way.. heavier, less powerful, more expensive

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    I think it's not allowed to use electronicly operated throttle, and engines that already have turbocharger are not allowed

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    Twin spark plugs for lower emissions huh?

    Most times it is an indication the combustion chamber is not even close to the optimum shape and the makers are having a hard time getting the bonfire going.

    Pete.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by barba_p:
    I think it's not allowed to use electronicly operated throttle, and engines that already have turbocharger are not allowed </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Not quite...
    8.7.1 Turbochargers or superchargers are allowed if the competition team designs the
    application. Engines that have been designed for and originally come equipped with a
    turbocharger are not allowed to compete with the turbo installed.

    So the engine would have to be run N/A. I'd love to hear the reasons behind this rule? If a team were to use this engine, it's highly likely that the entire intake system would be completely altered in design due to the 20mm restrictor. Any argument about engines designed for turbos being stronger is also moot due to the restrictor. Is this rule a carry over from the early days of the competition when other rules were not so stringent?

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dazz:
    Anyone looked into using one of these?
    </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Yep, about 8 years ago ... because back then it was a 600cc engine. They changed that to 700cc pretty soon and I'm sure that the no. of 600cc Smart engines outside continental Europe is close to zero.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...ine_and_fuel_economy


    Tim

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    The engine is also a bit on the edge from a thermal point of view. The entire first series would melt down if the oil level was below MAX.
    The manufacturer tried to excuse themselves by claiming that is was not strange that their engines seized after only 20.000km, as it was a city car and not designed for long distances.....
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    Well I just had a call from SmartCar Australia and there was a grand total of ZERO 600cc models imported to Australia (we didn't get any until the 700cc models were released). And he was unable to supply me with any info on the 600cc engines. Best he could do was suggest I import a s/hand engine & drivetrain from the UK... not really an option with the money situation in the current economic climate.

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