German Pre Event 2005

[Mad Ruska]

Hello all,

we will invite all teams to the 2005 German Pre Event.

These Pre Event will be held from 9th of August until 12th of August 2005.
It is a full Dynamic Event. All FSAE Dynamic Events will be driven.

The Event will take place @ two different tracks:
Track 1 - Harzring Aschersleben:
https://www.lionsracing.de/fun-event/luftbild_aschersleben.jpg
Track 2 - Porsche Leipzig
http://www.porsche-leipzig.com/fotos/besuch/kv-infrastruktur_02.jpg

Rules:
Cars must meet min. FSAE Rule 2004 or later
Cars will be scruteneered (compl. FSAE scruteneering)
No of Cars are not limited per Universities
No of Drivers are not limited (must have driver license, Healt incurence like FSAE)

Scoring:
FSAE Rules

Accomodation:
camping site near the track (50m)incl. restrooms and showers 2 Euro per person per nigth
pits are free of charge

Timetable:

09th of August: Check in/scruteneering/track open for practise - Harzring
10th of August: scruteneering/track open for practice/acceleration - Harzring
11th of August: track open for practise / autocross - Harzring
12th of August: Endurence on Porsche Race Track in Leipzig - Leipzig (Aschersleben - Leipzig 1 hour driving distance), Award ceremony, PARTY in Aschersleben

Awards:
Best over all
Best Acceleration
Best Autocross
Best Endurance
Fastest Lap in Endurance

Insurance:

The organiser of this event, have aranged "third party liability insurance". This policy includes a "third party participant insurance"� for ALL drivers in all teams. It doesn't include a "participant accident insurance"�. It's on your own to get the accident insurance.

More Details will fellow soon and watch these URL:
Formula Student Germany (http://www.formulastudent.de)

Teams so far:
- TU Fast TU München
- TUG Racing Team TU Graz
- Lions Racing Team TU Braunschweig
- Student Racing Team FH Stralsund
- Weaslels FH Graz

You need more Information or will register:

madruska@hotmail.de

[Mad Ruska]

Hello all,

we will invite all teams to the 2005 German Pre Event.

These Pre Event will be held from 9th of August until 12th of August 2005.
It is a full Dynamic Event. All FSAE Dynamic Events will be driven.

The Event will take place @ two different tracks:
Track 1 - Harzring Aschersleben:
https://www.lionsracing.de/fun-event/luftbild_aschersleben.jpg
Track 2 - Porsche Leipzig
http://www.porsche-leipzig.com/fotos/besuch/kv-infrastruktur_02.jpg

Rules:
Cars must meet min. FSAE Rule 2004 or later
Cars will be scruteneered (compl. FSAE scruteneering)
No of Cars are not limited per Universities
No of Drivers are not limited (must have driver license, Healt incurence like FSAE)

Scoring:
FSAE Rules

Accomodation:
camping site near the track (50m)incl. restrooms and showers 2 Euro per person per nigth
pits are free of charge

Timetable:

09th of August: Check in/scruteneering/track open for practise - Harzring
10th of August: scruteneering/track open for practice/acceleration - Harzring
11th of August: track open for practise / autocross - Harzring
12th of August: Endurence on Porsche Race Track in Leipzig - Leipzig (Aschersleben - Leipzig 1 hour driving distance), Award ceremony, PARTY in Aschersleben

Awards:
Best over all
Best Acceleration
Best Autocross
Best Endurance
Fastest Lap in Endurance

Insurance:

The organiser of this event, have aranged "third party liability insurance". This policy includes a "third party participant insurance"� for ALL drivers in all teams. It doesn't include a "participant accident insurance"�. It's on your own to get the accident insurance.

More Details will fellow soon and watch these URL:
Formula Student Germany (http://www.formulastudent.de)

Teams so far:
- TU Fast TU München
- TUG Racing Team TU Graz
- Lions Racing Team TU Braunschweig
- Student Racing Team FH Stralsund
- Weaslels FH Graz

You need more Information or will register:

madruska@hotmail.de

[scooter2131]

Wow,

I wish I lived in Germany.

[rjwoods77]

All i have to say is someone is going to get hurt. These cars arent meant to get in accidents and a track like that will chew these cars up for lunch if they are absolutely perfect. The crash regulations for FSAE are bullshit and the fact that 75 percent of the cars out there have their front suspension axis at the drivers knees and above is just bad news. To race on something like that they better make there own rules.

Not to even mention that probably 90 percent of the drivers in FSAE arent trained to drive around other people of a track that size. I would go.... if I had a formula ford or an f500.

[Denny Trimble]

The first course looks like a kart track, and the second seems to be a full-sized track. This doesn't preclude a safe event; chicanes can be set up on the straights to limit speed, and passing lanes can be added. Isn't this how the FS and FSAE-A events are run?

(From the RMIT Website):
http://www.fsae.rmit.edu.au/photos/photogallery/enduro2.JPG

I think we should give the organizers the benefit of the doubt here, and see what they actually set up before stating "someone is going to get hurt".

[Mad Ruska]

Hello,

Denny you are rigth, the first track is an outdoor kart track. The track will be slow down with cones. This includes slaloms etc. confirmed to FSAE rules. Picture from last years Event:
https://www.lionsracing.de/www/media/pic-gallery/gal/Fun_Event_Germany_2004/Fun_Event_Germany_2004_pic124.jpg

The second Track is the Prosche Leipzig Factory Track. I can confirm, that these track is a real race track. For the Event we will not use the track, we will use the dynamic area in the infield , which is a great clean lot. We will only use 2 corners of the original track, which will be slow down. The Track will be setup as FSAE confirm track, inl. all saftey features how are necessary.

The track was chosen because these track has an fantastic peripherie, incl. a museum with the most secuessfull Porsche race cars etc.

Rob, there will be no wheel to wheel action. These will be a FSAE confirm Event. You should know, one of german characters is saftey!

These event will be the KICK OFF for the VDI Formula Student Germany Event in 2006, which will be a full FSAE conform Event.

Frank

[Frank "Ruska" Roeske]

New Infos and more Details are availible.
Please visit Formula Student Germany (http://www.formulastudent.de)

[rainRANA]

As track designer for this event I can confirm that we will stay 100% with the FSAE - Rules regarding the dimensions of the race track.

That anybody is getting hurt is the worst thing what can happen on such an event.

Regards Rainer

[kwancho]

*swabs up his drool with a towel*
<-- also wishes he lived in Germany. Looks like an awesome event.

[Racingchef]

...lives in Germany and will join the event in August...

...will drive 136mph by teasing his four-cylinder-engine... http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Herbie
Alumni
UoStralsund
Germany

[Mad Ruska]

So far following teams are registered:

Helsinki - 2nd @ FS UK
Student Racing Team - 6th @ FS UK
TU Munich - Skid Pad Winner @ FS UK
Lionsracing - Best European Team 2004
TU Graz - 4th @ FS UK
FH GRAZ - 10th @ FS UK
FH Wolfenbuettel
Politecnico di Milano
FH Amberg Weiden

Intersted are:
KTH Sweden- 3rd @ FS UK
Chalmers Sweden
Queens University Belfast - one of the fastest car in UK these year

So it will be a real close competition.

See you all in Germany!

[Frank "Ruska" Roeske]

Hi to all,

The German Pre Event was a great sucess and it was really close. The first 4 teams was seperate by just 10 Points.

Winner is TU Graz, fellowed by Stralsund and Helsinki.

Pictures and more details will fellow soon!

[Mad Ruska]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rob Woods:
All i have to say is someone is going to get hurt. These cars arent meant to get in accidents and a track like that will chew these cars up for lunch if they are absolutely perfect. The crash regulations for FSAE are bullshit and the fact that 75 percent of the cars out there have their front suspension axis at the drivers knees and above is just bad news. To race on something like that they better make there own rules.

Not to even mention that probably 90 percent of the drivers in FSAE arent trained to drive around other people of a track that size. I would go.... if I had a formula ford or an f500. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ROB, all i have to say is that nobody was hurt! No accident, nothing. If you don´t know all aspects of the think, be carefull with any comments.

Frank