Probable reasons for disqualification from Static event

[RPM, Manipal]

Hi everyone..

I m part of a rookie FSAE team from Manipal.

I just wanted to know the probable reasons for being disqualification from FSAE static events.

[PatClarke]

Asking silly questions???

[A Richards]

1. Not turning up.
2. Turning up without a car.
3. Turning up high on crack.
4. Turning up without a car while high on crack.
5. Asking silly questions

[Anvit Garg]

Hitting on the judge's daughter/mother/wife.

[B. McGinniskin]

Originally posted by Anvit Garg:
Hitting on the judge's daughter/mother/wife.

as above, insert - while high on crack

[exFSAE]

Or if you just hit on Claude himself.

[Brian S]

Come on guys, this is engineering, you need to backup your ideas.


10.5 Alcohol and Illegal Material
10.5.1 Alcohol, illegal drugs, weapons or other illegal material are prohibited on the event site
during the competition. This rule will be in effect during the entire competition.
10.5.2 Any violation of this rule by a team member will cause the expulsion of the entire team. This
applies to both team members and faculty advisors.
10.5.3 Any use of drugs, or the use of alcohol by an underage individual, will be reported to the
local authorities.


Unfortunately it looks like anything while high on crack is out.

[Anvit Garg]

Originally posted by exFSAE:
Or if you just hit on Claude himself.

Unless you are a lady. I think hes cool with that!

But, I bet if you pronounce OptimumG like OptimumGhey, that might disqualify you...

Motion for sticky!

[Wesley]

I don't know, he speaks about his wife very highly.

I'll throw in two, which might or might not make sense to anyone else:

Failing to "UNLATCH IT!"
Not knowing that "You MUST have a balaclava!"

And of course, both of those while on crack.

[J.R.]

Tyres leaving the car... While on crack...

[Anvit Garg]

Chain leaving the car (no chain guard) and hitting someone's bag of crack.

[A Richards]

If while pushing your car to the design event you snap a tie rod, lose two wheels, catch fire, and use more than 26 litres of per 100km you may get disqualified. Apart from that I think that the only way you could get disqualified for a static event is making up stuff in the cost report.

[Wesley]

I'd like to edit Richards' statement:

"...is getting caught making up stuff in the cost report."

[D Collins Jr]

In the pursuit of quality information, the only ways to get "disqualified" from static events are to 1. not submit a cost report. This results in a 100 point penalty for cost (why some teams have a negative score overall) lying on the cost report AND getting caught will result in a penalty, not a DQ. 2. You can be "disqualified" from design for not submitting a design report. There is no point penalty, and you still get to compete, you just won't get to score points for design or get reviewed by the judges.You can't get DQ'd from Sales Presentation, and the only other static "event" is tech inspection (it's in the rules). BTW, reading the rules will answer most of these kinds of questions about how the event itself works.

[Frank]

smoking in the fuel station whilst refuelling.. nah, done that

bringing the same car three years running.. nah, done that

arguing with scrutineers.. nah, done that

I agree with Pat.. asking stupid questions

[Storbeck]

Originally posted by A Richards:
1. Not turning up.
2. Turning up without a car.
3. Turning up high on crack.
4. Turning up without a car while high on crack.
5. Asking silly questions


Actually I was on a team that showed up to design without a car once, and we were not disqualified, no surprise we didn't do very well though. Things really didn't improve much when the car showed up thoughhttp://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

It was first group in the mourning and the car was waiting in line at the scales when our time slot for design judging started. Many reasons we didn't do well that year, all of which were our (my) fault.

Maybe best to get Claude high on crack, create a little more even playing field.

Make sure you know the modulus of elasticity of your crack.

[The AFX Master]

Not passing percy or having a wing a bit backwards... on the enduro.....

off course, all of them while high on crack.

[Chris Aho]

Showing up with one of these
http://cache.jalopnik.com/cars/assets/resources/2007/02/Honda-Earth-F1-TOP.jpg

[benny41]

Originally posted by Chris Aho:
Showing up with one of these
http://cache.jalopnik.com/cars/assets/resources/2007/02/Honda-Earth-F1-TOP.jpg

we definatlly know the designer of that paint job was high on crack!

[Ppada]

we definatlly know the designer of that paint job was high on crack!

Definately the other with the pictures was worse.

[lithiumdeuteride]

If a judge discovers a nest of squirrels living inside the car, it's all over. Make sure to bring your de-squirreling spray.

However, if you give the judge a bag of crack, such a violation may be overlooked...

[The AFX Master]

Requesting crack via the Main Tent HOT announcer (i did promise her to marry her this year)

[Mehul Botadra]

Apply Loctite for lock nuts! :P

[PatClarke]

Mehul,

You will not be disqualified for Loctite!

Your car will not pass Tech for Dynamic events withjout proper locking of critical fasteners, however you can still compete in the statics.
The Judges will lambast you and you will not score well, but you will not be disqualified.

Pat

[Mehul Botadra]

@ Pat

Isnt that as good as being disqualified! http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Its possible to drink poison like water, doesnt mean you drink it! http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[João Pinho]

Hello there

I'm a member of a fresh-new team from Faculdade de Engenharia da Universidade do Porto, Portugal http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The goal is to participate in 2013 Formula Student (UK), class 2A (electric project).

As I read in this thread, you need a car even if you only participate in static events? Or are Class 2 participants exempt from bringing up a car?

'Cause it will be almost impossible to build a car from scratch in this first year (and if we could, we would probably try and participate in Class 1A!)

Cheers http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Francis Gagné]

If you read this document

http://www.formulastudent.com/...s-final.pdf?sfvrsn=0 (http://www.formulastudent.com/docs/fs2012-docs/fs2012-class-2-rules-final.pdf?sfvrsn=0)

It explicitly says :

Please note that it is essential that some component parts are manufactured in order that teams may demonstrate their understanding of manufacture.
[...]
Teams that present only the smallest or simplest parts for judging will naturally be awarded their points accordingly.


So yes, you need some of the car built to gain point in the manufacturing area. But you do not need a fully complete built. Of course your entire design work should be completed by then if you want to make the most of this opportunity to gain lots of experience and feedback. See the design judging as a final design review.

[PatClarke]

Francis,

Be a little careful with that document. It refers to the UK Class 2 entrants. This class is not run at any other competition.

Pat

[João Pinho]

Thank you Francis!

PatClarke, luckily my team will compete in FS UK Class 2A, so this time it's ok... http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I read the pdf file that Francis linked here and I think I must point out some doubts...

Is there any template for the Design Report and Design Spec Sheet and Student Activity Disclosure Form?

There is so much information to read and sometimes I find information of the wrong competition or the wrong year (FS 2013 rules aren't out yet) that I'm just terribly affraid that I'll be working on this project for almost a year and then, in the end, we get disqualified for something stupid, like forgetting to send some kind of file (there are lots of them to send, right?) or even not being able to participate...

[PatClarke]

Joao,

There is no template for the Design Report but there is a blog item on the FSUK website 'Learn to Win' about what is required.

The Student activity form is a document you download and complete

Pat

[João Pinho]

Pat, thank you http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Michael Royce]

Joao,
In our book "Learn & Compete, A Primer..." Pat has written a full chapter on The Design Event Submissions. This includes some real words of wisdom on the Design Report, as well as The Design Specification Sheet.

[João Pinho]

Thank you, Michael! It seems to be a great book, I'll try to find it somewhere in my city... I've been reading the Learn to Win articles and they've been a good help as well http://fsae.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

It's a bit sad for me, in a way, participating in this project. And that is because I'm in my last year in the Master in Mech. Eng. and my team has few Mech. students and we won't be able to actually build a full car this year... and next year I won't be around...

Thanks for all the help, people!

[João Pinho]

Francis, just one more question about participation in the design event.

Imagine we design every single one of the car's components, but we only manage to build the chassis and the seat. In the design event, we will only be evaluated to the things that we took already built or everything that we designed?